Guest Post by Fred Reed
I wonder how many Americans quite understand what the Us is facing in its aggressive confrontation with China. Washington clearly prepares the public for another unnecessary war. Given America’s routine defeat in war and catastrophic miscalculations in fighting small powers, picking a fight with what, increasingly, is again becoming the Middle Kingdom seems less than bright. Yet within the Beltway there is the usual smug complacency, the unshakable arrogance that appears to think the China is just a big Norway or Guatemala that needs to be put in its place.
A quick glance at China:
China easily leads the world in civil engineering, building roads, bridges, ports, rail lines, long-distance high-voltage transmission lines, and digital infrastructure. People returning from China, including yours truly, describe it as being like coming back from a more-advanced planet.
Everyone talks about the high-speed trains, with good reason: 180 miles per hour, quiet, comfortable, huge windows, with very short stops at villages between major cities, giving rural populations the speed of air travel without the nuisance. by contrast, American rail looks like something out of 1955.
The importance of civil engineering is more than symbolic. Infrastructure facilitates commerce. China is of course the manufacturing powerhouse of the world. By contrast, America simply ignores infrastructure, spending instead on the military and long since having largely abandoned manufacturing.
China leads the world in ship-building, with South Korea being another major player in this game. America has almost no ship-building except for military, and this has been criticized by the Government Accounting Office for primitivism and slowness. Ship-building obviously is important for commerce, and also for military purposes–China now having the world’s largest navy.
China leads the world in Five G, in patents, technology, manufacturing capacity, installed base. this is not always well understood. Five G allows the transmission of large amounts of data with short response times–high throughput, low latency, as we say. Huawei now has what it calls Five.five G, an improved version. Five G is important for controlling factories, smart cities, and so on. Beijing takes it seriously, China now having around 3.6 million installed base stations versus something like 100,000 pseudo-Five G base stations in the US.
China finds its brightest students by rigorous testing, and then sends them at government expense to its excellent universities. The US deliberately enstupidates its schools at all levels to make minorities look smarter than they are. How is this going to work?
China dominates the planet in electric vehicles. Its lead over the US is so great as to be insuperable in technology, batteries, price, and productive capacity. If you follow tech news, you see things like a Chinese ev battery that charges in ten minutes. As many have pointed out, BYD’s sub-ten thousand dollar car will find an almost unlimited market in the Global South. No other country is even close. Biden’s high tariffs on Chinese evs will serve only to allow American companies to continue selling wildly over-priced vehicles to Americans who will have no choice.
China, Russia, and perhaps Iran have developed hypersonic missiles, of which America doesn’t have any. This is interesting. Americans have always assumed technological superiority over Russia and China. Judging by the poor performance of Western weaponry in the Ukraine, this seems questionable.
In other fields, America maintains a lead, or at least an important part lead, though usually not by competing but by strong-arming, sanctions, and tariffs. The greatest of these is semiconductors. The situation is curious. The Chinese have the brains, engineers,and savvy to design and make high-end chips, but Washington has a stranglehold on the equipment needed to manufacture them. However, China has a recent history of horrifying Washington by doing things it wasn’t supposed to be able to do, such as make chips in seven and five nanometer nodes and stay neck-and-neck with the US in supercomputers. But it has not been able to make the advanced lithography tools needed at the forefront of the chip business. If it does, it will be Katie bar the door, but it hasn’t.
China leads the world in production of steel and aluminum. America can’t compete, so it imposes tariffs.
It leads the world in solar panels, leads in technology, production capacity, and price. America can’t compete, so it imposes tariffs.
China remains behind America, but not by much, in aspects of its space program. However, it has an extensive and robust launch capacity, a successful space station in some ways more advanced than the International Space Station, and moves rapidly toward reusable launch vehicles. Years back now, it sent a successful fully automated moon-sample return mission to our satellite, and, later, a combination Mars orbiter, lander, and rover, all functioning perfectly on the first try. NASA and Space X maintain a lead, but it isn’t a growth stock
There are other fields in which America holds a lead. Jet engines, for example. My point is that Washington seems to suffer a recto cranial inversion, imagining a superiority it only barely has but probably, all things considered, doesn’t. China has four times the US population, the Han by agreement among psychometrists have a five or six point advantage in mean I.Q, and an intelligent government focused on increasing its commercial superiority.
It is all the fashion in America to decry authoritarianism, but this allows Beijing to take decisions and then carry them out, over decades if need be. It also allows a noticeable system approach. In America, individual states or corporations undertake projects like high-speed rail or Five G. China tends to do things on a whole-country basis. The difference in results is clear.
Washington, which subsidizes its own industries, complains that Beijing does the same–but the Chinese system works.
What China doesn’t have is a sprawling, over-extended, low-grade, incomprehensibly costly military draining funds desperately needed to bring America up to modern standards domestically. China is not an appendage of its military. It seems to have figured out that wars cost money and, if there is one thing the Chinese really really like, it’s money.
Sez I, a little more realism in the Yankee Capital might be a good idea, a bit less huff and puff, more spending on America and less on a blood-sucking arms industry. But what do I know?
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So your advice is to quickly surrender? Perhaps this was drafted by the CCP. I am old enough to remember when the left was saying the same things about the USSR. Look how that turned out. Socialism must, and always will fail. We just need to give them enough time to either implode or become democratic.
The trains in China run on time.
That was corporate-statism as Mussolini termed it.
China is a model of technocratic totalitarianism It’s becoming a technologically enforced behaviorist laboratory. That’s on its way, in what’s left of America and the West, generally.
The food supply shenanigans and latest scamdemic, the turbocharged border invasion, the utter dissolution of all due process, the trillions of Fed inflation, the decades of family wreckage, are all shredding what’s left, leaving a perfect mess for the same here as China already has.
I sense a non sequitur there.
The turbocharged border invasion and the trillions of Fed inflation will only result in a collapsed third world country.
Absent the technology and average IQ to maintain it and a worthless money (how will the enforcers be paid?).
I don’t see a totalitarian regime, but a fractured nation of states, some successful, some -stans, depending on the prevailing ideology of each and the local political hierarchy.
I would agree in a vacuum. However, the moment that the US splinters, China will step in. First they will “assist” the blue states to conquer the red ones. Then they will take over the blue. That is the main reason to oppose secession by the red states, which otherwise might be a viable solution.
You really believe Han Chinese would want to associate with the blues?
Same for Nazi Germany. They probably would have in the USSR if they didn’t keep breaking down. Great role models.
The point wasn’t about role models. The point was about associating China with socialism.
We depended on CIA “estimates” for the CCCP. We don’t for China. It’s out there in plain sight.
China is a socialist/capitalist mixture, just like the US. Let’s see who falls apart first. I’m betting on the US, especially after what happened on 5/30.
I visited China in late 2019. No trash, no bums, nobody running around waving pictures of Chairman Mao. Only the tourists were buying copies of his ‘Little Red Book’. The local Chinese people loved to include us in group photos they were taking. Chinese airline pilots were excellent-taking it easy on the equipment. No ‘chop and drop’ approaches, smooth landings-not easy to do in a jetliner. Rode on a bullet train from Shanghai city center to the airport-better than 200 mph, smooth ride. Everybody selling something, home grown fruit, custom suits, you name it. ‘Communist’ my ass. That’s just a label they are stuck with. The place is run like a giant company, looking to make money. Is it a utopia? Hardly. there’s still a lot of people on the low end of the totem pole struggling to get by. I’ve seen some u-tube videos of women reduced to sex work-$20 will get you laid in a lot of places. They have some cultural problems resulting in 100 million women over the age of 30 considered to be unmarriageable ‘leftovers’. 40 million men with too low of an income to be considered for marriage by young women is another problem I think with the direction they’re going as a nation they’ll ok however. With the Chinese and the Russians the Global South is getting a better deal than the US and the West can offer. The rest of the world is getting up off their knees and are not interested in being bossed around and ripped off by the West any longer. The East is rising, the West is falling. Plan accordingly.
CCP propaganda.
100 million women over the age of 30 considered to be unmarriageable ‘leftovers’. 40 million men with too low of an income to be considered for marriage by young women is another problem
Oh.
That is a form of a caste system.
The real reason the over 30s are unweddable is the thirties is when “chang breath” sets in.
Any of you who know Chinese people, know what I’m talking about.
Caste system is everywhere. You don’t see the elites looking to fondle fat Bertha in subsidized housing or Juanita in the barrio or Peggy Sue in the trailer park, do you?
There is no planning. It’s too late. The West is too stupid to acknowledge or even believe what’s before their eyes. The bad blood of multiculturalism destroyed them, both physically and mentally. They’re earmarked for the double ash-heap of history and soon. Everyone else will follow later.
Hope you are wrong. If the US is bad now, China is far worse.
Really? And you don’t know that the US is a socialist country mixed with all kinds of other bullshit?
In the FUSA, the socialism is for the connected elite, and select bottom feeders.
For the formerly middle class, there ain’t much left over, but at least they know they’re free.
The US Constitution is a formula for a statist dystopia. All centralized governments are.
The safeguard the constitution chose was to put power in the hands of hundreds. It was futile. It just took longer to fully subvert, but not really that long, just a hundred years or so. Allowing all the power in one body was the mistake. The mistake was federalism, if it was indeed a mistake, which I personally doubt.
If there were no worse gov’ts a confederacy might be viable. As long as there are powerists at the head of big countries, tiny ones are lambs waiting for slaughter.
Socialist banana republic no less
What makes you believe China is socialist? Or communist? Welfare for the masses? Doesn’t exist there. No social security. Work or starve is what it has. Homos don’t have a month a year to celebrate their anti-human practices. Women don’t get to dominate policy that invariably is socialist as demonstrated here in the U.S. since the 19th in 1920.
Kids get educated and support if and only if they work at it. The rest do manual labor or whatever. Our kids are afflicted by socialist teachers and administrators bent on equality for all resulting in the dumbing down of society and inciting kids to demand what they have not earned through diligence and application.
And that ain’t all. Check out the corruption in D.C and in the military industrial complex where kickbacks are the norm resulting in second rate results. Compare our infrastructure to China’s.
And more.
We once had things in hand but those days are gone because believers like you are in the majority now promoting socialist outcomes everywhere you look with few exceptions.
China will implode, too, one day, but meanwhile this country is on a path to bankruptcy in the near term. The Fed feeds on its Modern Monetary Theory.
Modern monetary theory (MMT) is a heterodox macroeconomic supposition that asserts that monetarily sovereign countries—such as the U.S., U.K., Japan, and Canada, which spend, tax, and borrow in a fiat currency that they fully control—are not operationally constrained by revenues when it comes to federal government spending.
Put simply, modern monetary theory decrees that such governments do not rely on taxes or borrowing for spending since they can print as much money as they need and are the monopoly issuers of the currency. Since their budgets aren’t like a regular household’s, their policies should not be shaped by fears of a rising national debt.
China is still tolatarinism, but no longer Communist. It is quasi capitalist.
But not any more totalitarian than the US…Take the deadly jab or lose your job…don’t demonstrate against mass murder, or you won’t graduate, and the cops will beat you up…
No. China is much further along, what with social credit scoring. It’s impossible to defy the state there. You WILL comply if you are to eat and live somewhere other than prison.
It’s on its way here, as they destroy the food supply chain. The hungry will do whatever they’re ordered to.
Not always.
China is more capitalist than the US…Try to start a business in the US, and see what happens to you! In China it’s easy….
Yes, but only if it complies with and abets the state.
Socialism is the universal corrosive that dissolves all freedom.
You totally miss his point. Your stupidity, not his.
Humiliating and crushing the DC government: General Lee couldn’t pull it off, but the Chicoms can. And given a chance, they will.
Read for comprehension, Mr. Fred said nothing about surrender. He’s saying, “Don’t fuck with China, or any other country, and there will be no need to go to war.” I’m not surprised that you missed the point. Apparently, that was your intention anyway.
I’ve mentioned many times here people can’t comprehend what they read. So much for the American school system. People also love to read into comments things never said based on their personal bias.
True, but some things are obvious. I admit to the biases of hating socialism and powerism. How about some of the posters here whose biases are hating America and/or loving socialism?
Don’t fuck with powerists always becomes appease powerists, which inevitably leads to war if the appeasing nation has a backbone, and surrender if it doesn’t. Part of dissolving a nation’s backbone involves convincing its people that the opponent is overwhelmingly powerful and that the people are helpless and hopeless. This article argues China’s ascendency inevitable, just like the left tried to convince us the USSR was in the 60’s through 80’s until the USSR disintegrated.
You’re so full of shit that the whites of your eyes are probably turd brown.
“It is all the fashion in America to decry authoritarianism, but this allows Beijing to take decisions and then carry them out, over decades if need be. It also allows a noticeable system approach. In America, individual states or corporations undertake projects like high-speed rail or Five G. China tends to do things on a whole-country basis. The difference in results is clear.”
So we should all want to be China right? Fuck that. Decentralization is the solution. NOT centralization… Chip
THE reason that kissinger/tricky dick nixon sold THIS Country down the River. At the behest of their owner.
“It is all the fashion in America to decry authoritarianism, but this allows Beijing to take decisions and then carry them out, over decades if need be”
Yeah, like turning all but the powerist elites into slave worker drones.
Absolutely, in a perfect world. We can break apart after China and Russia do, but not before.
China isn’t socialist.
It’s technocracy-totalitarian; much more fascist than communal.
It is an mercantile non-expansionist empire. Always was, always will be, no matter what lipstick is put on that pig. As a nation it has always been one of the most benign on earth. Jews lost control of their golem, because they are no match for China’s intense nationalism.
Are you talking about the US or China. To claim China is non-expansionist is absurd…just ask the Tibetans, Indians, Japanese, Taiwanese, and all the nations bordering on the claimed great sea of China.
There is a thin line between communism and fascism. Both socialist doctrines.
You are right about the techno-totalitarian, but fascist and communist are two sides of the same coin. One owns everything without pretense while the other lets you pretend to have economic freedom until it suits to take it away. Look at all the rich “capitalists” in China who have been imprisoned or otherwise eliminated.
On what planet is the Chinese gov’t not socialist. When people are only permitted to be capitalist at the whim of the gov’t, they are only capitalists on a leash.
The whole thing is fake. The US and China aren’t separate entities any more than the Repos and Demos are. Distinctions without differences.
What we know as the country of China today – the PRC – exists because globalists designed the system this way. China is a manufacturing powerhouse because central planners have intentionally structured everything from supply chains to financial systems to work that way. They don’t want resilient national supply chains. MMT is the funding mechanism for holding all this together.
We’re in uncharted waters with how massively global coordination metastasized in the 20th century. We simply have no way of knowing precisely what would happen if a switch was flipped from win-win coordination to real adversarial conduct. But what we do know is that any analysis using a framework of independent sovereign nations is useless.
Collapse the USD, for example, and all the vaunted manufacturing instantly moves from China to the US. Meaningfully attack Taiwan and the CCP might inadvertently disintegrate the PRC. Etc.
Centralized systems are vulnerable. Great for cheap goods when everyone is fat dumb and happy. But sucks big time when the JIT supply chain goes tits up. That is happening now or very soon… Chip
Nope that ship has sailed. The USA as we have known it is done/toast. We have been sold out by our beloved elected officials and will soon reap the rewards of moral decay. How is it that everyone comes out of DC worth 10 to 20 times what they were before? Buckle up the ride is about to get bumpy with loads of turbulence.
Interesting. Perhaps we are heading toward global corporate control rather than traditional global governance.
In the end wars come down to man power, China out numbers us, and now challenges us on technology, if not outright beating us. That is the current situation.
China is ahead in most areas, and the US military is a woke joke…And how do you fight someone 6,000 miles awayt???
Hyper-sonic weapons, that China has and we don’t!
Nope, it comes down to money creation out of thin air.
To pay the man power.
skewed
There’s over 45,000 of them wondering lose in America as we speak, that we know of. FJB and crew are not anti Chinese. China is the sugar daddy for corrupt politicians every where. China is smart, they use American greed to defeat the US at it’s own game.
Wandering, you nosepicking retard, not “wondering”.
And loose, not lose. And anti is not a freestanding word, but a prefix, to be either hyphenated or appended. He’s a twit, but he’s right on a zillion unfriendly Chi invaders here.
You missed two others: everywhere is one word and it’s is an abbreviation for it is or it has, the proper word is its
This should be a spelling-free zone.
Mr Hide, palse aks yuro ohetr slef abuot tish.
“Wandering, you nosepicking retard, not “wondering”
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Butt eyes saz tanks to dem peoples fir pointen out dem mizsteaks an kepen us frim awl lokin ignerent!
Don’t be an ass dude
Probably spell check changed it on him. I have had that happen to me.
Oh, of course. He probably also has a world class broken version of autocomplete as well.
Lead by example. asshole.
China is not the problem. (((they))) are… Chip
Maybe more will be able to see that in the future.
I’ve had few whiskeys before I wrote that, now, I’m taking a puff or two of good pot, to level things out.
So, Fuck you!
No problem man, enjoy and God bless. Hate the grammar Nazi’s lol. Takes this 72 year old fart 5 minutes to type that and twice as long to proof read.
You and me both!
That’s funny as shit, boogereater. You posted that reply to your own retarded comment.
Fuck you Mr. Ed
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Brandon is a black-mailed puppet of China because of what they know about corporate Biden and the “big guy”>
I hate spill chick also.
Of course Fred. And they are the reasons the US wants to (pretend) to blow China up. But it’s all theatre for the plebs, because the US ruling class is in bed with the Chinese. The same ones who closed the factories, moved them to China to make a quick buck.
Beginning with Nixon.
My intuition has said for a long time…Er-mercans have never had an enemy fighting on their own land..in modern times… and the scummies in charge (bankers and Blackrock who benefit from the depopulation and rebuilding) are planning exactly this… can’t say I care … there is no america anymore, in fact no nations whatsoever, just subsidiaries.
Uh Fred, D.C. is trying to tank the nation so it can, y’know, Build Back Better. Washington is not interested in a healthy and thriving nation; quite the contrary.
New Amerika is not interested in competing. Competiton is masculo-toxic and yucky.
Over a decade ago on TBP, and many, many times since, I told everyone what was going to happen, and voila! Here we are. I told everyone that China was graduating more engineers each year than the US has in total, and that would accelerate them beyond belief. I was howled down by the USA USA types. I was told that Chinese are incapable of innovation, that the USA was too far in front, that they could only copy what the US invents, their quality is shit and always will be, etc. I said that was bullshit – that they were creating millions of engineers from their very best and brightest, they were not hindered by EPA regs, they were not constrained by laws governing intellectual property, etc., and that they would also steal every idea that they can get their hands on and then improve upon them, and that they were making some of the highest quality goods in the world, but Americans were only buying cheap crap from them as all they see is price, but don’t be fooled – China can and will produce high quality goods. I said they were playing a different game and the US was going to be toast.
And toast it now is.
LLPOH was right again, and the idiot masses were not. You know who you are – you are still posting.
And they’ve invaded Down Under, as well, Nescafe pas?
They aren’t invading anywhere. Why would they? They are winning without such. Why invade when they can just buy what they want – with your own money.
They are playing a different game. There are no rules in a street fight. China knows this. The US and most of the rest of the world doesn’t.
I would have agreed with you, though that is infrequent with you and me.
You can’t always be wrong. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
Amen
China remains behind America, but not by much, in aspects of its space program. However, it has an extensive and robust launch capacity, a successful space station in some ways more advanced than the International Space Station, and moves rapidly toward reusable launch vehicles. Years back now, it sent a successful fully automated moon-sample return mission to our satellite, and, later, a combination Mars orbiter, lander, and rover, all functioning perfectly on the first try. NASA and Space X maintain a lead, but it isn’t a growth stock…
Of all the conspiracies in the world, the ones I am most curious about are space and nuclear. I don’t expect to find answers in this life. It seemed like India gave away more than they intended, recently, which is kind of funny. Do they become privy to the big lie, or do they just use the big lies for their own ends? I suspect there are many private conversations that are quite hilarious and interesting, behind the veil of diplomacy we are presented.
I understand, but there is nothing I can do to change it. So all I can do is trust in God.
With you there brother! God bless you and stay safe as can be.
The devil, the antichrist, satan, Moloch and Lucifer, do not reward those who worship them with anything good. They curse them and torture them fro eternity in Hell. They become slaves to the devil and do his will which is evil, while bragging they dio it, and calling it good. When they die, they go to eternal punishment in Hell. They become complete slaves of the devil, and in Hell there is no death. That is what War precludes. Wars are a punishment for people who worship the antichrist. That is why the US has always been at war. To continually sin against God so they will burn.
Joining any cult of evil that worships dsatan such as the US senate or Congress, or freemasonry or the illuminati, has the final consequence of eternity in Hell. When you serve the devil, you become the enemy of God.
We need peace in the world, we need to end all war, to be right with God, to be faithful and true to Him.
When Russia and China attack the US, it will because we have sinned against God by all our wars for Moloch, for supplying children and the unborn as sacrifices to Moloch.
It is fitting that the US worships the antichrist=Israel, they are not with God, they worship the beast and obey the devil Netanyahoo, AIPAC, the ADL, and would rather die than be named an antisemite. Even though the jews are Eastern European, ashkenazi yiddish, and not a semitic people no matter how much they change their names to decieve us they are. The US would not want to be called an antisemite because they truth is they are not antisemites, decitful jewisg semantics aside, antisemitism in reality means anti-antichrist, and their gods are the jews and their money and the science they also misname and mispell and is rightfully spelled ‘satansism’.
The entire West has become zionists which also is misnamed and mispelled and it truly: lovers of Lucifer and His emmisaries from Hell, the jews.
War has already begun with covid through a covenant with Israel. War will soon become openly violent. Since you are satansist and think what satansist (israel) does is good, that they can do no wrong, you have forsaken God and heaven, and eternal life.
You will get what the devil gives: Eternal death and destruction in Hell.
You have mistaken and confused good with evil, God with the devil, for that, there is eternal punishment. Billions will die in WW3. Billions will be punished for worshiping the antichrist. Only God rewards us with goodness, with love, and joy in heaven. You have all abandoned God, when you took up and consort and worship the jews as zionists.
The entire Western antions will fall in ww3, as punishement for accepting demonic entities from hell=the jews who sacrifice babies to Moloch and eat their flesh and drink their blood, who Hunted and conspired against Jesus Christ until they paid 30 pices of silver to have Him betrayed. Who called out for His blood to be on their hands and their childrens forever. Who lie cheat steal, embezzel, bribe, blackmail, scam and defraud all the wealth and power they now own, not to mention the money they make from their poison industries we misname science but is satansim, that has destroyed our eco system, and yet they still call their climate agenda saving the earth, when it is clearly destroying the earth, just a science has destroyed the earth and your bodies and brains. But what they did to your souls is the worst, they have corruoted your morals and made you hedonistic fools who find gratifcation in sickening pleasures of the flesh that offend God, they made you atheists, and haters of Jeus Christ and God almighty.
They made you losers. Because God is LIFE and God always wins.
Those who are with the jews are losers, of their souls, of their bodies and minds with tranhumaism, they will destroy you completely. They can only destroy, it is their only power as the antichrist=demons from Hell.
You will not return to God, your will not return to Peace, or save your souls. Do you know why? Becaue you love money, that comes from Moloch=Rothschilds. They will pay only the soldiers and the chipped, with implants and vaXXXines, and you will cave in and serve the beast in WW3, and be truned into demons=killer machines run by AI. You will be their soldiers and continue to be slaves to Moloch’s money system, with the great reset which is: total abolishment of Ll things of God, all love, charity faith and beleif in Jeus Christ under penaty of death. They will make not worshiping the jews as your new Gods under their fake demonic Lucifer Antichrist Messiah a crime punishable by beheading.
They will take all your children, all gentile children, inder the age of 7, an entire generation and sacrifice them to Lucifer, to consecrate this entire world to him. You will allow it, because you started becoming a part of that plan when you Gave the enmies of Christ the Holy Land and the Vatican, and became Zionists=worshipers of the antichrist.
Once you invited in the devil, you gace the devil all he needed to take you down. The west is about to Fall. You will suffer unimaginably for that grave mistake.
No war…I took a poll and no one wants to participate unless there will be TikTok streaming available…