Do you (especially, Christians) have the balls to read the entire article? Or, will you quit after the first couple paragraphs cuz your snowflake ass got all triggered?
” …. there is no authority except by God, and those that exist are put in place by God.” ——– Rom. 13:1
You Believers have NO choice! Per the above scripture, if you love Jesus, then you must accept the fact that God decided Joe Biden should be POTUS.
Instead of mocking Joe, you ought to pray for him. He’s gonna need all the help he can get.
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By Cameron Hilditch
A toxic ideological cocktail of grievance, paranoia, and self-exculpatory rage was on display at the “Jericho March,” a protest staged at the end of last week in Washington, D.C., by the president’s most devoted Evangelical Christian supporters. Their aim was to “stop the steal” of the presidential election, to prepare patriots for battle against a “One-World Government,” and to sell pillows at a 25 percent discount.
Watching the proceedings unfold on YouTube, I found it wasn’t always easy to tell where these three objectives ranked in order of priority for the organizers.
In fact, there was a strange impression given throughout the event that attendees believe Christianity is, in some sense, consubstantial with American nationalism. It was as if a new and improved Holy Trinity of “Father, Son, and Uncle Sam” had taken the place of the old and outmoded Nicene version. When Eric Metaxas, the partisan radio host and emcee for the event, first stepped on stage, he wasn’t greeted with psalm-singing or with hymns of praise to the Holy Redeemer, but with chants of “USA! USA!”
In short, the Jericho rally was a worrying example of how Christianity can be twisted and drafted into the service of a political ideology.
But ideology is not actually compatible with Christianity. Ideology goes hand in hand with politics and nationhood because its purpose is to abstract from the particular lives of individuals certain general rules or truths about human behavior that can then be used to organize society. For this reason, ideology excludes the unique and unrepeatable personality of each human, what we usually call our “self.”
This flattening-out of people into manipulable abstractions is necessary if we’re to have a political order at all. Politicians in the federal government, for example, govern over 300 million people. They can’t hope to have a personal relationship with each and every American individually or to legislate according to the unique predilections of our personal lives. They have to search for concerns we share with others and treat us as avatars of those concerns. We become, in the eyes of the state, members of a tax bracket, pro-lifers, pro-choicers, white, black, residents in a particular zip code. In all cases, our unique and individual personalities, as distinct from the things we share with other members of a political group, are excluded. Because of this, politics is, in a very real sense, inhuman. As the Greek theologian Christos Yannaras writes, “the substitution of politics for existence is the supreme betrayal of the subjective otherness of man.”
It’s possible for people to embrace this way of thinking to such a great extent that they become ideologically possessed. Individuals can so identify themselves with a political collective that they lose the unique human being that once existed underneath. Even worse, they can apply this same standard to others and so identify their opponents exclusively as evil stereotypes. The human fades away and the idea of the enemy is all that remains. This is what Yannaras means by “the substitution of politics for existence.” People are reduced to political actors, and reality is reduced to political combat. Every other stalk of what the poet Philip Larkin calls “the million-petaled flower of being here” is plucked off and discarded.
This cast of mind was, for a long time, the preserve of the Left, and it flourishes there still in the form of intersectional identity politics. But in recent times we’ve seen more and more of this mindset raise its ugly head on the right. What’s more, there are certain features of the conservative mentality that could allow it to take root and sprout up quicker and to deadlier effect than we might imagine. For evidence of this, look at the Jericho March itself.
The American Right has always been suspicious of what we might call “wickedness in high places.” This impulse goes back to the Founding itself, when the Patriots became convinced that a vast transcontinental conspiracy to rob them of their liberties was being orchestrated by a shadowy, distant elite: the British parliament. This Founding dialectic between the popular children of light and the elite children of darkness was built into the rhetoric of Jeffersonian democracy from the start. At its best, it functioned as a safeguard against government overreach. At its worst, it led to the excesses of the John Birch Society, McCarthyism, and, most recently, the voter-fraud truther movement.
When this kind of vigilance is combined with the ideological mindset, it quickly turns into conspiratorial paranoia. Since the purpose of ideology is to provide a comprehensive account of political life, data that don’t fit the ideological model can be reshaped by an appeal to conspiracy. Those on the left have done this for years. Every time events confound their ideological schematic, they explain it away by appealing to dark-money-fueled conspiracies perpetrated by billionaire robber-barons. Right-wing ideologues have now found a similar scapegoat in the form of the “deep state.” Here’s what Mike Flynn had to say at the Jericho March:
We cannot accept what we’re going through as right. We’re inside the walls of the deep state and there is evil and there is corruption. And there’s light and truth. And we’re going to get to the light and we’re going to get to the truth.
This is the way it has to be for ideologically possessed people. When one’s very sense of self is bound up with the success of an ideological program, the program cannot be allowed to fail. Which brings us to the most depraved and sordid aspect of this whole conspiratorial movement.
Not unlike the president himself, the leading lights of the Jericho March have said breathtakingly irresponsible things about the election that could very well lead to violence. The aforementioned Eric Metaxas, who has a radio show and a considerable following, described himself as “happy to die in this fight” and told his listeners that “we need to fight to the death, to the last drop of blood, because it’s worth it.” He also described everyone who isn’t on the “stop the steal” train like this:
Everybody who is not hopped up about this . . . you are the Germans that looked the other way when Hitler was preparing to do what he was preparing to do. Unfortunately, I don’t see how you can see it any other way.
Other speakers at the event called for the formation of a civilian militia, while Alex Jones, the noted Sandy Hook truther who speaks with a congenital snarling drawl, compared the moment we’re in right now to 1776.
We have to reckon with the nontrivial chance that someone out there will take these men seriously. When you reach for language like this while addressing an audience of politically enraged people, you’re courting the possibility of violence. After all, who doesn’t want to be the first one to take up arms against the Nazis, or to take up the mantle of liberty from George Washington?
This is the tragedy of the Jericho March. The irony of the Jericho March is that an ostensibly Christian proceeding in fact more nearly resembles the paganism it long ago vanquished. Writing about classical antiquity, Metropolitan John Zizioulas notes that
many writers have represented [Ancient] Greek thought as essentially “non-personal.” In its Platonic variation, everything concrete and “individual” is ultimately referred to the abstract idea which constitutes its ground and final justification.
This sounds a lot like the way modern ideologies work. In America today, individuals are ultimately referred to the abstract political idea that constitutes their ground and final justification in the social order. Zizioulas goes on to observe that in classical Rome, “identity — that vital component of the concept of man, that which makes one man differ from another, which makes him who he is — [was] guaranteed and provided by the state or by some organized whole.” As Christianity recedes as a cultural force in the West, we seem to be moving back toward this “non-personal” way of dealing with each other. But far from pushing back against this process of dehumanization, the Jericho March Christians are actually accelerating it by dividing good and evil along exclusively ideological lines.
To understand the gravity and the tragic irony of this, one really has to understand the world as it was when Christianity first appeared. As Zizioulas notes above, individual persons weren’t thought to exist in their own right in the ancient world. Everything and everyone was conceived of as a fragmented shard of the universe, which was ultimately one great impersonal unity. Men and women drifted in and out of existence as epiphenomena of an impersonal cosmic order. Christianity changed all of this by insisting that ultimate reality is itself personal: three unique and unrepeatable divine persons who exist in a communion of immediate relationship.
This is why Christianity, rightly understood, marks the end of ideology. It insists that the truest and most important aspects of our lives are not the ideas we concoct of one another in the abstract so as to have a functioning government. The unique person, understood only in the context of loving relationship and apart from any ideological status, is the real heart and hearthstone of human life. Consequently, the Christian faith turns out be essentially anti-political, because the state can’t treat people in this manner. It can only treat them as political actors. But this is how the Jericho March Christians seem to think of themselves and everyone else.
There’s much to say about the specific lies that have been told about the election by conspiracy theorists on the right, but many of my colleagues have capably debunked them more convincingly than I ever could. My main concern is the broader trajectory of Christianity in this country and the encroachment of political ideology onto its spiritual territory. If the ideology of the Jericho March has become truly widespread on the right, it could end up being a much more intractable and serious problem in the long term than anything surrounding the defeat of Donald Trump.
While the laws that we live under matter a great deal, Christians need to recover the primacy of the personal over the political more than anything else. If we can’t love our neighbors in a personal, politically agnostic, face-to-face way, they’ll turn to synthetic and unreal ideological communities to fill the gap left by the loneliness of their daily lives.
The road back to sanity, solidarity, and social trust on both sides of the political spectrum will involve turning away from this ideological cul-de-sac and back toward personal communities once more. If Christian churches won’t do this, they risk being exploited as political playthings of the powers that be.
That would be like accepting the fact that you’ve just been brutally raped. I don’t know what God decided, but any critically thinking person can easily see that this is an all-out assault on everything our country stands (or stood) for.
NEVER accept fraud. NEVER accept lies. NEVER accept communism. ALWAYS fight for what’s right.
Always enjoy your thought provoking articles.
Hitler was God’s choice. So, if you hate Hitler, you hate God. So shall it be in the days of our Lord.
Don’t forget Stalin and Mao ad well.
Pol Pot, Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, and countless other mass murderers.
Lost me at ‘voter fraud truther club.’ Sorry, don’t do sanctimonious and biased and I really don’t do some fraud masquerading as a ‘Christian’ and conservative while promoting the leftist agendas.
It’s funny that every time there is a hint of Christians actually getting up on their hind legs, some ‘oh, so concerned’, smart ass “theologian” quickly comes along to tell us how we are ‘Un-Christian”. The first rule of Biblical interpretation is ‘context’ and you don’t take ONE verse and build a case. Sorry, pal, but the damned Godless Left and the Deep State ‘politicized’ every damn thing! You can’t swing a cat with being political.
These self righteous smug pricks what to us to stay in the church buildings, feed and cloth the poor they created, cry about fake White guilt and racism and shut up.
I really would love it if Satan and his followers suddenly ‘found’ Jesus and left us the hell alone but its not going to happen and this trip of the train there is no where to run. They are coming for our blood this time. We have been our own worst enemies by sitting silently.
Screw it! Most ‘organized’ religious leaders have shown their hands during this whole 2020 fiasco and they failed. They had the spiritual discernment of a Democrat, which is to say, almost none.
But … but … that’s done all the time! Just look at the ONE mention of “666”, and the case built around that.
Besides, there is more than just “ONE” verse to build my case.
See? Now there are TWO verses. There are several more but, I won’t bore us all with a Bible study.
Pray for Joe Biden. The Lord blesses those who bless Joe.
The only reason to pray for Biden is to keep that laughing cunt out of office. I can pray for God to smite my enemies. Today at the YMCA I dropped a card in the prayer box that said “Dear God, please kill Tim Walz.” Walz is our governor who isn’t even letting you take a shower or use the pool at the Y.
God does not support fraud, Twisted fool.. people need to pray for you Joe Biden will never get in the White House
That last sentence of yours is a doozy. Why don’t you shut your fucking mouth, shit in your hat and pull it well down over your ears. Merry Christmas to you too,
He’s right. Without context you can make the Bible say anything that you want. I don’t care if you quote 1000 verses. If you’re being eclectic you will quickly introduce error. You need a full-orbed understanding of the relationship between God and man. It’s why I have said previously that without a proper hermeneutic your understanding is on thin ice.
And you’re stirring the turds again.
by the way Stucky…. let me give you an example of God “taking a king away”.
Judges 3:15-22
No Stuck…the Lord blesses those who appose those like Sniffer Joe and his ilk . I’m not naive enough to think that there aren’t plenty of Republican’ts in that same cesspool.
Jesus sell your cloak to buy a sword…my sword is more modern .
Sell thee thine Columbia down coat and buyeth ye an Harrington Richardson M1.
Jews were subverting Christianity before he was even put on the cross.
There was Christianity before the cross??
Wow, tell me more!!
There was Christianity before the cross??
Yes… it actually began “In the beginning….”
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
Jesus is the Word.
Just easier to repost
Damn! That was a great article. Brilliant author, I think. Thanks for posting it.
It is apparent that Christian church leaders worldwide are sleepwalking through these times and trying to be politically correct and forsaken biblical correctness. And political correctness is nothing more than a polite form of brainwashing and tyrannical control.
We’re dealing with Evil and it is ok to resist Evil. This Christian will fight.
Rom.13 teaches that the powers established by God are those powers that “are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.” This is why we have no reason to fear or protest the powers God has established. This is why God says our conduct in regard to these powers is to “do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same. For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”
And that this is the power that God establishes that we are to be “subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.”
But, the powers that promote evil and punish that which is good are to be resisted. No Christian in good conscience can subject themselves to powers as if established by God that contradict this context of Rom.13. To do so would be the antithesis of everything the apostles taught and stood for. Some would even say that resistance to tyrants, of whom satan is chief, is obedience to God.
Hi Ed,
Could you please post your 10 favorite Bible verses …. or, your 10 favorite Bible characters …. or, the Ten Commandments and why you like each one …. or 10 verses that to you seem like a load of crap, etc.
I need 10 of something …. and each item needs to be its own post.
Why? Because with just 10 more posts, this dog will get to 100 !!!
Getting to 100 is vewy important to me.
Thank You for your assistance.
Well, there’s the old reliable 3:16…..
but this one burned into my brain the 1st time I read it:
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart” Heb 4:12
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <——===
Cameron Hilditch, certainly does not have a Calvinist outlook, as in Calvins Institutes or share Calvin’s view of government. The Founding Fathers at a minimum had a knowledge and understanding of Calvin’s writings.
So that is what went wrong. I independently came up with the surmise that America is still reeling from the evils wrought by Calvin and mentioned it to a wise person I know. Apparently it was not a novel idea at all.
we forgive you – try not to let it happen again
My prayer for the prog politicians is repent and gets saved Immediately or drop dead so you don’t destroy anyone else’s life anymore than you already have.
The way I see it, I’m not here to judge anyone’s soul, but frankly each day that goes by as I watch the utter criminality in the world and specifically this nation, it puts me more and more in a mood to speed up a lot of people’s appointments with the one who will do the judging.
Funny how such “theologians” forget that Jesus not only spoke the truth, he went to where the rulers resided, got in their face and then told them the unvarnished truth. Romans Chapter 13 in no way negates the obligation to speak the truth…to power or otherwise.
Just abut everything the left stands for is a mockery of God.
They believe it is OK to kill unborn babies
They believe there are more than 2 genders and a person can decide for themselves what gender they are
They believe that same sex couples are not only OK, but GREAT.
They believe marriage is OK, regardless of who or how many are getting “married”
They believe it is OK to be lazy and not work
They believe it is OK to destroy another person’s property or to take whatever they want, as long as it is in the name of social justice
The list goes on and on and on. Standing up to evil is my duty as a Christian
“Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.” Romans 6:13
So, by that logic, true Christians must be ideologically unpossessed? Seriously? OK, then.
It would interesting to see the author apply his same logic to… say… a historical U.S. Christian such as Harriet Tubman:
Yes. The typewritten contortions would be interesting to read, indeed.
Ya know, Stuck, the more I think about it, Harriet Tubman would be a VERY interesting study at this point in American history. Especially in light of National Review authors (like of the article above) being the new house
niservants and readers here being the new fieldniservants . Do you think the TBP audience would give it fair consideration?YOU should write it. I’d do it myself, but you are more incontrovertible than me.
TBPers give all decent writings a fair consideration.
The Wiki link you posted is pretty thorough. Not sure what more can be said …. at least by me. She led a long, interesting, exciting, useful, varied life. Not sure which aspect of her life should be addressed in an article.
Hey, I have an idea. I think YOU should do it! 🙂
I was thinking… maybe… dignity under oppression, steadfast commitment to liberty, courage under fire, and the focused perseverance through the completion of specific objectives. Also, how values and actions define people more than black / white zero-sum game assessments. Something like that, maybe, and against the backdrop of societal turmoil and division, violence and danger. Surely there are lessons there for our time. But the inherent challenge for such an article would be to keep it dead-center on the Mason-Dixon Line. Tricky business and placed in the “maybe” file for now
Unc- There may be a problem on the horizon for sites such as this who allow open forum comments and articles uncensored.
I read a piece this past week that stated the IMF is working on a plan to use financial technology (FINTECH) to steer readers away from “bad sites” or the reader will suffer a hit/hits to their credit rating. (NOT KIDDING)
Would readers be willing to risk the slings and arrows of losing an exemplary credit rating to read the politically incorrect articles? It matters not that the non-PC articles are the truth, this looks like we may have a problem Houston.
Nothing would surprise me, BL. Good to see ya
Unc- Stucky alone could ruin every credit rating in the TBP community….LoL 🙂
Merry Christmas to you and yours, glad to see you also.
Good to see you, BL!
Stucky- Masterful shit stirring. To this day, I can’t believe Christians would vote for either of these hacks. The old school Christian would never have considered them worthy.
Tubman was a fucking terrorist. But then, Hitler did nothing wrong. That the author is a clown is self-evident.
As a Christian I’ve excepted the fact that God has turned his back on USA why wouldn’t he we are a very immoral country, but he has not turned his back on me, I keep my eyes on Jesus and try to live a life he would approve of even though I’m a sinner
I have yet to learn about God making any ad deals with governments of this world. God does not turn his back on people. They turn their backs to Him.
Have you read the old Testament
Where’s their love for all those with whom they disagree?
That’s a classic tell of these Leftist deceivers… on one hand they will pine about how loving and nice we should be, then immediately turn to attack their enemies with venom, false accusations, twisted scripture, and *gasp* NAME CALLING! How uncouth! You see it all the time, and the so-called left-leaning ‘Christians’ are the worst.
What the heck did I just read?
What the heck did I just read?
Blather and bullshit.
Oh, thank goodness. For a moment I thought I had a brain tumor.
Guy must get paid by the word. Does not seem to know the word ‘brevity’.
Here is an example.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.”
Acts 5:29
A National Review article.
Hilditch: English Language and Literature from Magdalen College, Oxford. He was previously the Investigative Research Officer at the Oxford Union Society, working on interviews with several heads of state, leading cultural figures, and the former director of the C.I.A. He was also appointed personal liaison to ex-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Indian Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid, and the Head of the British Civil Service, Lord Robert Kerslake. He is a member of the Oxford University Conservative Association and, before going up to Oxford, revived and edited his school newspaper. He is originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland.
Classic Swamp Rat & well-trained deceiver.
(((National Review))). It has come out that not only was WFB a (somewhat) closet homosexual, but also a closet leftist. The whole “conservative movement” was a con. What does that even mean? How can you accomplish anything with a pseudo-philosophy/pseudo-ideology/prepositional politics?
Joe is not in the white house yet. What a bunch of blather… may be you could of saved all that blathering space and just say you didn’t like what took place with that march and all and continue to sit on you’re ass.
I wonder if this author will be reminding his fellow Never Trumpers to “obey the govt” if/when their treason is exposed, and Pence throws-out the illegal EC votes and Trump wins in the House per 12A? I think we all know the answer to that…..
The MSM has a blackout of course but many legal cases are proceeding nicely and HUGE gains are being made with the state legislatures now demanding to be called into session and investigate etc. Peter Navarro’s 32 page report made it very easy to quickly see what happened and how.
If Pence declares a state’s result unacceptable, it is then thrown back to those legislatures to adjudicate. Since a number of these states have executive branches refusing and even blocking investigations and demands to call the legislatures into session to investigate, expect exactly that to happen.
Yep, this fight is not over by a long-shot. And it better not be…. such a compromised (and traitorous) old fool should never be allowed to assume the Presidency. Expose their treason and Cross the Rubicon!
Mr. Hilditch would seem to be squarely at odds with many predecessors, one for example, who complained about the cowardice of German intellectuals of the time and certain clergy, including himself. His name was Martin Niemöller. Most, I believe are familiar with his famous poem (“First they came…”).
Recently and still continuing, churches have been on “lockdown”, Was Moses wrong (ideologically driven) to have words with Pharaoh? “Then the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh, and tell him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me.” Exodous 9:1 KJV.
Even Christ often railed against the Pharisees. The Pharisees were the political rulers of Jews in those times. The Pharisees were “elders” of within cities and had the power over both legal and theological affairs.
I could include many other examples. However, as to his view of Christianity: “This is why Christianity, rightly understood, marks the end of ideology. It insists that the truest and most important aspects of our lives are not the ideas we concoct of one another in the abstract so as to have a functioning government.” and “Consequently, the Christian faith turns out be essentially anti-political, because the state can’t treat people in this manner.” (emphasis by Hilditch)
Hilditch makes the claim that Christianity “rightly understood” is deviod of ideology. In his article, he makes no claim of being a Christian, neither does his CV point to any concentrated degreed areas of Christian study, but he speaks as though he is some authority of Christian understanding.
How odd that is that Hilditch might believe that Christians can have no other areas of interests or care. I wonder if he would be upset to find that they have many interests, hopes and dreams just as most people do?
Per his critique, if Christians cannot have ideological positions, can Mr. Hilditch have any positions with regards to Christians?
PS Thanks Stucky for finding and posting this article. It made me think.
Thanks. Terrific commentary by you.
Hilditch say Christianity should be “essentially anti-political”. In an ideal world, that’s true. I mean, how many political statements by Jesus are recorded in the Gospels?Not many, if any.
But, Christianity turned full bore political after Constantine came to power …. perhaps even before then … and has been so ever since.
If you go by frequency of mention by Christ we should all become agrarians. 90% of his parables lean heavy into the soil.
“A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. Whoever has ears, let them hear.”
how many political statements by Jesus are recorded in the Gospels?Not many, if any.
Here’s one that is sufficient all by itself.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and render unto God what is Gods. You don’t get more political than that. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the culture around you. You see, the Beast in any age, is looking to supplant God. And it doesn’t like competition.
Well worth the read in its entirety.
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/rebellion-to-tyrants-is-obedience-to-god.8091543/
– Timothy and Chuck Baldwin, Romans 13: The True Meaning of Submission
Baldwin is one of my favorite authors. He says …
“Christian pastors are erroneously reviving the divine-right-of-kings argument, which created some of the most horrific human affairs in history. ………. They … argue that government is Divinely sanctioned to do anything it pleases and that God requires people to submit regardless of God’s standards of justice. This argument has been used by virtually every tyrant since Jesus, ….. The True Meaning of Submission shows with overwhelming evidence that submission to government is limited and that the obey-government-no-matter-what argument is false!”
Baldwin is 100% correct.
Hilditch is a moran. But, that’s where much of Christianity is heading … and you’ll see more and more “obey the government cuz da bible sez so” assholes, because today’s seminary students are just as indoctrinated and bat-shit crazy as the rest of the college world.
I posted my comments just to stir the pot.
Oh I know. 🙂 But Llpoh mighta beaten you today!
Ha, figured that’s what you were up to! Well played, sir.
Yeah, I always find the ‘obey the govt’ missus to utterly ignorant. Clearly they forget that Nero outlawed them, and was turning Christians into human torches and feeding them to lions as a consequence…. they obviously didn’t submit, and went to meeting in the catacombs.
Glad you brought up Nero. When Paul wrote Romans …guess who was in charge? Nero!!
Essentially, when Paul wrote that Christians should obey all government authorities he was giving that murderous tyrant Nero a free pass!!!
And people wonder why I loathe Paul.
I believe Paul wrote to the Romans in 57 AD, but Paul wasnt martyred until 64, when the great persecution began. But I hear you…. Paul was an excellent teacher, but he wasnt the end-all and be-all of theology that many kind of make him out to be.
The more simple explanation is that “Paul” was false, as has been argued since Nicea. He says a lot of questionable BS in direct conflict with the Gospels.
Ken,
I wonder if you would elaborate… if even only briefly? (e.g. a couple of contradicting verses)
Mornin’ theOtherD….
Saul/Paul……I always viewed ole Paul as not having much say in the matter, after his Road to Damascus moment.
I have found any discrepancies to be a result of my lack of understanding, or in many instances, a ‘mistranslation’ of what is revealed upon further etymological investigations (or, more accurately-listening to/reading those who have done it)
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Stucky…with all due respect, if you “loathe Paul” it may be because you have a misunderstanding of him.
Saul- the strict teachings of the scribes/pharisees order….
Paul- a prisoner of Jesus Christ…..
I always viewed ole Paul as being a real badazz….preaching Christ after persecuting his followers.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <—-===
PS….I still think preterists are too narrow minded
I respectfully disagree.
It is BECAUSE I understand Paul’s teachings that I loathe him. In 7 simple words —- Paul taught things that Christ never taught.
But, today is not the time to get into that. I do want to thank you for your thoughts, and for helping this get to 100!
So…that was what this was all about? Getting to 100?
Someone’s been taking some good drugs again… 😉 Biden didn’t win the election YET. So there’s nothing to accept at this point in time. Personally, I think anyone who thinks Biden is going to take office is delusional. Trump didn’t wade neck deep through the swamp for 4 years just to give it all up to a rigged election. It doesn’t align with the road map for America.
Romans 13:1-4 KJB… “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”
Paul here is describing godly government; government as it should be in a community of saved people. Evil men exist and they need to be dealt with. This is the purpose of government within this passage of scripture. When government becomes a terror to good works, it is the Christians function and responsibility to stand against evil in and out of government.
I would pray that Joe Biden and company get saved. I would pray that Donald Trump and company get saved. I would pray that they all then come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:1-4 KJB… “I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
Greetings, GCP….
“The “fiftieth day” (Pentecost) from the deliverance of Egypt, when the Law (the Old Covenant!) united the nation of Israel under the will of God while on Mt. Sinai, was a literal, moment-for-moment parallel of the “fiftieth day” (Pentecost) from the death of Christ and deliverance from the confines of sin, when Jesus fulfilled the Law down to the letter and united Jew and Gentile (the New Covenant!) as a new people under the grace of God while on Mt. Zion.”
https://www.skywatchtv.com/2020/12/20/the-messenger-part-14-what-were-those-mysterious-tongues-of-fire-in-the-new-testament-church/
I always refer to a ‘grafting in’….and a plenary to the Word; with foreshadowing of Christ from the very beginning. Give this article a read/critique, will ya?
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <——===
Howdy sir ordo!
“…and united Jew and Gentile (the New Covenant!) as a new people…”
United in a “new creature” (Eph 1-3); the new covenant comes later to the house of Israel and the house of Judah (Jer 31, Heb 8). That the article speaks to the “new testament church” tells me instantaneously the author is building upon the wrong foundation. That of the Jewish Acts 2 church and not the church which is His body begun with Paul.
This is where most folks get hung up. A new church with new instructions began with the calling of the apostle Paul in Acts 9.
1 Timothy 1:15-16 KJB… “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”
Stucky is right and wrong at the same time. Paul absolutely teaches things different than what Jesus taught, he does not yet see the reason. That is, he (Paul) is speaking to a different audience than Christ was. Christ speaks to whom He was sent.
Matthew 15:24 KJB… “But he (Christ Himself) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Compare/contrast…
Romans 15:8 KJB… “Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:”
Romans 15:16 KJB… “That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.”
Grace and peace brother… 😊
God is not necessarily nonviolent sort. Pretty sure He is down with folks opposing tyranny. Not that He has told me that personally. But I really doubt He would be against His people fighting tyrants. I cannot imagine He wants His people enslaved.
Everyone has obligation to Higher Powers, believe it or not.
God the Father
Jesus the Christ
We the People
Employees
Contractors
The problem is we have entered into contracts with our employees who do not recognize any higher power.
We own and are responsible for [ as a higher power ] what we create. Not recognizing your responsibility, and acting upon it, obligates your higher power to intervene.
” Just look at the ONE mention of “666”, and the case built around that. ”
http://www.otherbiblecode.com/sixes.htm
So exposing lies, and the search of truth is unchristian.
Got it.
Read 1 Samuel chapter 8 and it will just about show you why we are in the shape we are in. Samuel has grown old and appointed his sons as judges in Israel. Verse 3, they walked not in his (Samuel’s) ways but lusted after money and perverted justice. The people of Israel plead with Samuel to give them a king like all the other nations (vs 5). Samuel prayed about it and the Lord told him; vs. 7 “they have not rejected you, they have rejected me that I should not reign over them.” The Lord tells Samuel to give them the king they want but first show them what the manner of that king will be.
vs. 10 – 17. He will take their sons and daughters to be his servants. Tax the hell out of them. Take their property and give it to his friends; etc.
vs. 18. And you shall cry out in that day because of YOUR king whom YOU have CHOSEN (elected??) and the Lord will not hear you in that day.
vs. 19-20. the people of Israel replied…”nevertheless, but we shall have a king over us …that we may be like all the other nations…”
An afterthought; Psalms 9:17 “The wicked are turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God”. Just saying; our schools are hell, our streets are hell, our homes are hell.
Heard it said many times, If God doesn’t destroy America, he’ll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Merry Christmas
Last verse of Judges. That’s America.
My fav “religious” satire was from an obscure TBS program circa 1980-82, “The Bill Tush Show”. It had a Tammy Faye parody featuring a pre-SNL/Designing Women Jan Hooks. She was Tammy Jean and had an “Inspritional Eldorado & Winnebago”. Sang great songs like “Oh yes it moved me, it moved me, I took the Bus, I took the Bus”.
Mebbe Netflix has it. Let me know. Being a hard core MBA (Tide) redneck w/ a Finance undergrad (Cowbell U.), it resonated.
BTW, the whole show was HILARIOUS. Think they did 26 or 1 hr episodes as a filler.
Good article that appears to boil down to, without saying as much, a pissed people’s using any vehicle to vent isn’t a good thing.
Goid luck to the author toning down or trying to reason with a mob that’s been pushed enough. And can you still get 25% discount on pillows?
God, all of these people want a ruler who will provide for them. What should I tell them ?
Sam, tell them that for every gift they will receive from the ruler, they will have to pay four times the amount to the ruler. Tell them the ruler will make their sons run before his chariots of war and their daughters will be compelled to toil to make a house payment instead of caring for their family. Tell them he will destroy their businesses in make-believe panics so he can apply more control and demand more taxes. Tell them they will cry out in despair with gnashing of teeth, and I will hear them not for they have demanded more government.
Freely paraphrased from I Samuel 8
Just one question, exactly what passive army in the End of Days, do you think will be fighting for Christ?
Hope Yo is ok. Yo,you out there? How you doing? The ‘rona letting up yet?
Yo has the Rona?? I did not know that.
Get well soon Yobert and we will pray for you. Come back soon.
Powers, not authorities:
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Romans 13:1 (KJV)
Because we know with whom authority lies:
The Devil said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. Luke 4:6
Next you’ll be trying to have us believe that “render unto Caesar” means “pay your taxes”, that “each according to its own kind” is old-speak for ‘diversity’, or that G-d does in fact love fags.
I doubt little manish soy boy clone even has gonads. Can the Cuckreview cuck any louder?
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Why doesn’t it mention that he is a lesbian?
Why doesn’t it mention that he is a lesbian?
They want to keep that fact on the downlow….
So he is a fellow sodomite, like his mentor WFB.
My first instinct before I even began to read it was let’s search and image of this guy and see what his physiognomy tells us he’s going to say.
If people wonder why so many have fled the church you would be hard pressed to come up with a better example of how to drive your flock out of the sheepfold.
WRONG-O…Ol’ Stuck Meister.
When man’s law goes against God’s Law then you follow God’s Law….period.
Stucky, I’m a Christian or I would tell you to stick your stupid reasoning where the sun doesn’t shine.
Heathens can never understand Christianity, it just doesn’t work that way.
Ahem….God punishes liars, cheats & frauds. Biden couldn’t fill a driveway yet Trump filled STADIUMS! GTFOH you’re either REALLY STUPID, a Cabal member, pedophile, cannibal, serve Satan OR one of the participants of the election fraud…do your friggin homework the Biden you see today is a clone or an actor…God you people are SO DUMB! Theres still time for you to get on the right side of things or else be left behind…just sayin…so quit using the Bible whose meaning has been changed by words. Read the Torah for the correct words in the Old Testament & start adding in the Books that were intentionally LEFT OUT! Good God! There is none so blind who WILL NOT SEE!