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Great article Jim, keep up the good fight.  I and many others will be there beside you.  This will be posted on my Facebook (another distraction) page tonight.  Maybe I can help wake up a few more...  BTW - we're not old quite yet.

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Anonymous

I'm going to save this for 5 years. I suspect there's a lot of truth in this that will play out.

Jim – another great article.  Unfortunately the majority of people will continue to be oblivious to what is going on around them.  It won’t be until peak pain that people wake up from their slumber.  By, then, like you said, it will be too late.  But, being the eternal optimist that I am, I can always hope that we can somehow make a difference. 

This is a random thought that will irritate several of you who dislike Gen-Xers:

I believe that you are a product of your environment to the extent that your world views and guiding principles tend to be shaped by the events that occur during your lifetime.  Several of us have used quotes from Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm to highlight the control exercised by the government on our daily lives.  Another good book which makes the same point, but in a very different manner, is Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley.  Both men wrote of the evils of governmental control on our lives.  Both men were today’s Gen-Xers.  Huxley was born in 1894 and Orwell in 1903.  Society writes of my generation (the Gen-Xers) as a bunch of lazy, disengaged, spoiled losers, when in reality most of us are motivated, hard-working and altruistic individuals.  While I will concede that some of our altruism is misguided, we, as a whole, are less selfish than society makes us out to be.

My point is that when Orwell and Huxley wrote their novels, both men were looked at as somewhat delusional.  Their words ring true today and are rather prophetic.  They were a product of their generation.  Maybe we should start listening to some of the Gen-Xers in today’s world.  We are not all lazy, disengaged, spoiled losers who only think of ourselves. 

 

Jim - I too will fight the good fight as long as I'm able. I was born in 1946 (first wave baby boomer) and I can totally identify with your article. I also believe wholeheartedly in common sense, and this makes common sense to me throughout.

I would suggest that the Gen-Xers are VERY aware of what is going on and that many of them are engaged in attempting to raise awareness amongst their peers. I speak with first hand knowledge of this since I'm the father of two Gen-Xers. You may consider this piece of music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtmemsBdd_c

This is the music listened to by Gen-Xers and the younger generation coming after them. This song and others like it will be the anthems of their generation as "Miss American Pie" was for our generation. Indeed, these are historic times.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Swashbuckler
Swashbuckler

American Pie has always been a favorite of mine. Never knew the story behind the lyrics. Until now. Riveting. Thanks.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Anonymous
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I bought a copy of The Fourth Turning after reading your previous article "Boomers-Winter Is Coming".  I've since encouraged several friends to seek out this book.  Thanks for another great article.

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When American Pie first came out on the radio, they only played part of it because it was so long.  Protests by radio listeners changed that in a hurry.

The greatest rock and roll song of all time, hands down.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Ed Croker
Ed Croker

Jim, you are not alone. I know where I stand. Right beside you and all the other people who know what we are losing every day. The end of big government comes, one way or another.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Kitty
Kitty

Another super article.  I also posted it on Facebook, but, sadly, the only person to read it so far has been a Canadian!  I will also be at the barricades!

TheBurningPlatform.com - Loomis
Loomis

Outstanding article. You are a gifted writer Jim, please continue to employ the talent you've been given so others may benefit. Time will tell where we end up. I too have children and I too agree with your stated position. Hold tight as the storm approaches and keep this site on track. Thank you all for your contributions.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Ron Enderland
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Mr. Quinn, I have quoted extensively from your article and linked back to this page from my own website, I Remember JFK (a Baby Boomer's Pleasant Reminiscing Spot) (http:www.irememberjfk.com). I hope this is acceptable to you. If not, let me know. In any case, your article is amazing and dead-on. Thanks for writing it.

Ron E.

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Jim, it is a joy reading any of your articles that deal with Demographics which, if I placed on a flow chart of mankind, would be directly under the top box of Cause and Effect.

...and also thanks for the trip down memory lane. I was a little too young for the 50s and 60s, but grew up in the 70s, and despite all that went wrong with that decade, I would never give up the experience.

Yes, Saturday Night Fever was the apex movie for my age group and represented the last innocent and fun time before entering the era of "Greed Is Good" a few years later. We went from growing our hair down to slicking it back as we worked 7 days a week, went to the gym in droves and still found time to partake in mind altering stress relief.

We were given the name Generation Jones because we always had a longing for something. My guess is that the longing was in fact the goal of early retirement which explains all the shortcuts we wanted to take to get there.

As you say: "The majority of Americans are oblivious to the Crisis that has already begun." I am not one of those, and this "problem" has consumed much of my thoughts for 5 years now since retirement. Sometimes idle minds have time to really see things as they are.

It's articles like this one here today that you have written that give me some sense of confidence that we will overcome this someday. Recognizing the problem is part of the solution.

 

TheBurningPlatform.com - Flyguy
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Burning Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi for food and fuel...hmmm....sounds like a real nightmare scenario.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Anonymous
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Excellent analysis.  The "marching band" was probably the Chicago police at Grant Field during the '68 Democratic Convention.  The video on television at that time caused a lot of very "traditional" members of the Greatest Generation to realize something seriously wrong was happening.  The "girl who sang the blues" was Janis Joplin, and she "turned away" to die of a drug overdose.  The "sacred store" was also though by some to be the Fillmore East, and "the man" to be Phil Gramm, saying the music of the Awakening wouldn't sell anymore.

After reading James Howard Kunstler's column on Monday, and yours today, I'm beginning to realize how close we are to the Crisis. 

TheBurningPlatform.com - Lizbeth
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 Hi Jim. Great article. I read every word and I must say I agree, but I'm also apprehensive that this turning may be less of a revolution than is needed for real change.

I know that no one knows what form the changes to come will take but I think a case can be made for no or little change at the top.

The Fed chairman, the treasury, and TPTB can just keep creating money as the banksters game the system, pay themselves and their enablers, and then dump their risk and losses on the Fed, on Fannie and Freddie, etc. I don't see why the scenario of the past year can't repeat. The banks crashed last October for all intents and purposes, yet here they are, still standing and 'earning' more money than ever before. 

In the meantime the average 'consumer' is consuming less because of unemployment, wage cuts, etc. But, states and pension funds are already being bailed out and that will no doubt continue. So government employees and those in academia will be ok. In fact they may soon comprise the bulk of the middle class, along with health care workers and those in industries that are still thriving, such as tech.

But the portion of the population in dying industries, or off-shored industries, or service industries selling to those with reduced incomes, will have less. But they will only be a portion of the population. Not everyone will be bad off, just as most people are still muddling through right now. So, just as those who have been marginal for years have been ignored or told to pull themselves by their own boot-straps, those who fall behind in this new economic climate will join the already-marginalized and become invisible. 

Baby boomers who didn't save enough will have SS checks and medical care, and will live on what they get. Not all boomers are wealthy so for a lot of them it won't be much of a change.

The millenial generation will also learn to live with less and be told that when they get older they'll earn more, but for now they have to start out on the bottom rung. That's what the boomers were told when we were young - don't complain about your old cars and trashy houses when your kids are young. You'll get a nicer house later.

Seems to me the kids of the baby boomers, the 30-somethings driving New SUVs and buying McMansions and furnishing them just so from the Pottery Barn catalog and pushing their $500 strollers around will turn out to have been the most indulged and priveleged generation ever. I'm thinking they are the peak of prosperity, for now at least.

I guess my point is that I can see a scenario whereby those for whom the recession doesn't end will remain powerless and poor, but won't comprise a large enough critical mass, population-wise, to force real change. 

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Jim,

Great junxtaposition of popular culture, recent events, predictions, and an important book.  Since my reading of the Fourth Turning about half a year ago, I was hoping to see some intelligent applications of the book's theses to US economic events.  Bravo.  You've put your unique "music" to Stauss' and Howe's "lyrics."

Thanks for the translation of McLean's lyrics.  Even as an early Boomer, I could only connect on about 50% of his content before your article.

TheBurningPlatform.com - Anonymous
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FDR guided us through? FDR laid the foundations of failure.

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Matslinger

I'm possessed by my refusal to accept the problem , and fight to convince somebody... anybody...

that we outnumber these bastards 10,000,000 to  1... and CAN stop whats happening!

Then I'm confronted with the ugly fact that our side has more bastards then theirs does!

The number of brain dead Americans is stagering!!! I make it my goal to awaken at least

one person each day, but the level of ignorance and stupidity I encounter, make it more

feasable to quench an atomic blast with a squirt gun. The biggest problem is that we are

an octapus with all our arms chopped off,  by the refusal of media  recognition.

The few who prentend to support the truth: Lou Dobbs, Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc.,

are very possibly using hope as a weapon to deter public involvment. 

I also fear that the inevitable  "SHOCK TEST" thats been dreamed up by the think tanks

will turn all of the brain dead sheeple into adversaries against each other, when their

cards dont work, when their pensions, IRA's, 401K's, and savings, are vaporized or

turned into "forced 10 year bonds". I recentley cleaned out my savings and paid

off my house... hopefully the right decision, when the FDIC is exposed for what it really

is. The likelyhood of individual debt , becoming family debt , has to be examined.

Homelessness is being criminalized, low credit scores automatically exclude you from

consideration for the few jobs out there.... this is horrid, just horrid! 

The America we knew is gone forever, but a new America can be be won if we

wake up and tell these Satan worshipers to go to hell where they belong !

 1st -turn off the TV

 2nd- -talk with your neighbors, people on the street, anyone who will listen.

 3rd- if you have money, spend it on spreading the message...you might as

well, it's going to be worthless soon anyway.

4rth- educate yourself ! you cant wake the comstose without being well versed

This isn't over yet . Mat Mpls.

 

 

 

 

TheBurningPlatform.com - Greg Fielding
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Wow Jim...this is one of your best articles yet.

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I already knew which side of the line I would stand on when I returned to the "world" in '75 after serving several years in uniform.  Even then, I would tell people "next time the shooting starts, I'll be on the other side of the line."  I will be waiting there for you and your sons when the time comes.  Thanks for the article.

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MikeD

Jim,

Great article.

I am afraid the clock is ticking much faster than we think. If we are going to do something about our current situation we better get started. The fact is that many people write great articles, many talk on radio and TV about what is going on and it seems from the comments that many of us think alike. The problem is we all talk and write about it but we do not take any action. Many very good God fearing Germans did the same thing while the Nazi's began to flex their muscles and dismantle German laws. Hitler rose to power legally, once in power he used false terrorist attacks to consolidate power in the guise of protecting the public ( sound familar). The public slowly gave up their rights and freedoms willingly. We are now in a similar situation. The government does not reflect the will of the people. It is not just Obama or democrats or republicans or right or left or liberal or conservative. The individuals and party labels are just a smoke screen to keep us all divided and distracted as our nation is being dismantled right before our eyes. It has been going on incrementally for decades. Our economy has been gutted. We have no real industry left to lead us to recovery. Everything is just an illusion, as the Fed prints fake money to buy its own debt and pour money we now owe( the taxpayer) into banks that turn around and manipulate the stock and commodity markets for profit and give the average person a false sense of hope. It is all fraud and it will end soon as the rest of the world is growing tired of the game. When the music stops it will be worst than any American can ever imagine. The music is about to end very soon. If we don't take the risk of acting now we will no longer have the opportunity.

Every once in a while, an article comes rip-roaring along, that just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

Congratulations on this being one of them. Of course, being born in 61, and loving that song from the first time I heard it in 71, is a good part of that feeling. And being without a job, due to no fault of my own, for the last 11 months, adds to it. And the surrealness that Uncle Sam, via Tinker AFB, supposedly an Equal Opportunity Employer, is discriminating against me for having bad hearing and preventing me from getting a job there I thought was all locked up, adds fuel to the fire. So I am unable to get a job working on aircraft due to a hearing loss that resulted from working on aircraft for 22 years. Who'd thunk it?

 

Anyhow I hope you don't mind I send this article out via e-mail to all my contacts. A fair amount of them will probably join here in the not-too-distant-future. :>)

I'm also going to keep this on my favorite list for a long time to come. Or at least as long as I still have internet service. Since I am coming to the end of my unemployment bennies, with no job in site, that may not be too much longer. :>(

TheBurningPlatform.com - Anonymous
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Just brilliant.  Thank you.

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Jim, this is more than a great article, it's a Magnum Opus.

It's a long way from 1936 to now, for me. The midst of the Great Depression, World War Two, Korea, the Cold War, doomsday clock, Vietnam ... one hassle after another, minor crises leading to major Crisis. Happy events interspersed, marriage, children, jobs good and bad.  Working in Saudi Arabia was an epiphany, other places are not like the United States, and yet, people are people everywhere.

Influences in my thinking -- not the least, Robert Heinlein from about age 14. And the dystopian SF of the 50s, so I had an early grounding in Crisis. Obsessive-compulsive reading, both non-fiction and fictio, classics and essayists. Two books of essays by Mark Twain (many not published in his lifetime) and I still have them, H.L. Mencken, and more authors than I could name in a comment.

It's like I've been preparing for Crisis all my life.

All along the way, new people have added to my understanding, and you're on the A-list.

 

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This is a wonderful article. Thank you for taking me back through my history. 

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Jim....your article captures and mirrors the deep down feelings of so many.  It is a stunningly provocative piece of work and by all rights should go "viral" on the internet.  I'll do my part to help in this endeavor.  And I hope everyone does their part to spread this compelling and moving piece.  Bravo!

 

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Jim,

I don't know if your are a true voice of warning crying in the wilderness or the most devious anarchist I've ever read.  I strongly suspect the former. I have open expressed concern (starting in February of this year) to loved ones that I am worried that in the US, the shooting will start soon.  I am still of that opinion.  I am also frustrated, angry, appalled, and ready to just give up.  Corruption, power and greed have taken control and will not yield to anyone's good intentions or public requests.  It is over unless things are so bad that the public awakens from their apathetic sleep and takes back their country.  Unfortunately, I can't see an ignorant, fat, lazy, over-medicated, over-entitled, populace with a Britney Spears 30 second sound bite attention span, rising to the task.  Furthermore, people are not emotionally invested in America anymore and nor is society homogeneous in it's culture. There are many inside of America who are willing cheering on it's destruction. The enemy at the gate is no longer the issue as the enemy is through the gate and firmly entrenched in all facets of society.  You ask which side will I choose?  I am on the same side as those express by your principles of truth, liberty, freedom and adherence to the US Constitution.  But how will I identify that side among the diffusion and confusion of available information? And how will I fight those in power with a gifted tounge who sway the sheeple but whose actions are clearly contrary to those principles?

Thank you for your usual thought provoking article.

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Nice article Jim.  You have put in such a great deal of work here.

The unfortunate reality is that it now seems that politicians in Western countries are determined to make far reaching major economic decisions based primarily (if not totally in many instances) upon political considerations - such as their desire to stay in power and the need to placate their "monetary contributers" - rather than on sound economic principles. This would certainly appear to be the case in the US - but the US is by no means alone on that score.

The majority of Americans are oblivious to the crisis not only because they are pre-occupied with earning a living and dealing with their day to day issues.  They are mostly too lazy to try and understand basic economics and also too often fail to analyse and criticise the actions and proposals of those in power.

Then that majority are constantly told by Government, their agencies and the "spinners" in the private sector that the worst is over, that Government has done a great job in averting a more serious down turn, that the actions by Government were correct, that people no longer need worry and, above all, to keep borrowing and spending.  (I don't think most of the unemployed, and those reduced to part time work, see it that way but they are probably not part of that majority).  "You see people .......... everything is now ok/improving because the stock market is going up".  How many times have you heard that one. ( What are they going to say when the now overbought conditions in equity markets seriously correct downwards - as inevitably they are going to do in the US and elsewhere?   The powers that be are no doubt getting the spin ready right now).   These are the same lot who never saw the crisis coming and who continued to claim, before the balloon inevitably burst, that all was just dandy.

But then the rhetoric in the US is also repeated in similar terms in other economies.

You really need to worry when bad news is treated as good news because it was not as bad as the "market" or the "analysts" expected it to be. Who gave "them" the top billing on wisdom anyhow.  

You also need to worry when news from foreign countries is treated as positive for US growth when it is totally irrelevant.  A recent example was the October 2009 decision of the Reserve Bank of Australia to increase their official interest rates by a mere 0.25 of one percent to 3.25%, with promises or more adjustments to come.  This was presented as great news for the US economy, an indication that the world economy was indeed on the mend and blah... blah.... blah....  What a joke. The reality is quite different.  The RBA markedly over-reacted in its interest rates cuts in 08/09 (from 7.25% in 2008 by the way) as the Australian economy was never ever affected to anything like the extent seen in Nth America and Europe by the GF crisis. The RBA's last rate decrease was as recent as Apr 09 and it's now increasing rates again towards more normal levels.  Furthermore, the considerable interest rate spread between US and Aust rates, with promises of an increasing differential, and a reasonably robust Australian economy, will contribute to sucking even more dollars out of the US economy and into the Australian investments. Of course there is already a steady flight of capital out of the US and into a range of stronger more sustainable economies.

 

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Hi Jim,  I thought this was a great article and posted it at Phil's Stock World (www.philstockworld.com).  Interesting analysis of American Pie, I had never thought of those connections.  Do you know what the top 4 songs of the century were?  Thanks, Ilene (http://philsbackupsite.wordpress.com/).

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 Jim:

Some of the commenters said "brilliant" and "Magnum Opus" and I agree.    The first part on Mclean and American Pie really grabbed me on a visceral level and your economic analysis is right on (as we used to say in the 70s).    May I suggest, however, you review your history comments.    I have come to believe that Lincoln probably did not guided us through the crisis of the 1860s but cast us into an immediate conflict that cost the country more casualties (about 800,000) and fatalities (about 600,000) than almost all our other wars combined while setting the country up for more than 100 years of continuing racial difficulties.     And FDR, as far as I can tell kept the country in a depression that lasted until after his death.    George W. Bush has more played the roll of Hoover while Obama is following in FDR's footsteps. We may well be in for a repeat of FDR's many years (1933 -1945) of hubris trying to do with government that which only a free economy can do.

I look forward to your future writings.

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Yes, music is a potent catalyst to motivate a stagnant society. Here's another oldie worth listening to :

In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find

In the year 3535
Can't tell the truth, can't tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
Won't need no teeth ,won't need your eyes
Won't find a thing to do
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms are hanging limp at your side
Your legs have nothing to do
Some machines doin' that for you

In the year 6565
Won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your sons, pick your daughters too
From the bottom of a long glass tube wouwo

In the year 7510
If god is commin' he should make it by then
Maybe he'll look around and say:
"Now it's time for the judgement day!"

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake his mighty hand
He'll leave a salient place where man has been
Or tear it down and start again wouwo

In the year 9595
I'm wondering if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything earth had to give
And he's put back nothing wouwo

Now it's been 10.000 years man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew now man's reign is through
But through eternal light the twinklin' of starlight
So very far away now it's night to yesterday

In the 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find...

In the year 3535
Won't tell the truth tell no lies
Everything you think do and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545 (fading...)

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Jim,

My brother and I enjoy your articles immensely. Funny we summered in Stone Harbor as kids and it is indeed a small world. The P raised their prices this year and they had an awful year. Still hear stories about McMahon and Diller cavorting in the hotel's pool drunk and naked.

Thank You,

LM Native

I took the recommendation of my friend CBX55 to read Jim's American Pie post, and then to join this site.  American Pie is indeed a wonderful retelling of the American Dream as it played itself out in Music History.  For those of us old enough to remember the events and the music as they transpired from the 60s onward, American Pie really did capture the spirit of America as it decayed through those years.

Other songs also from the period captured some of the zeitgeist, mentioned just above is the Zager & Evans tune, "In the Year 2525".  You would also have to mention Barry Macguire's "Eve of Destruction" here, with its remarkable parallels to our current geopolitical nightmare:

<The eastern world, it is exploding
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that gun you’re totin’
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave
[Take a look around ya boy, it's bound to scare ya boy]

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist  the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don’t pass legislation
And marches alone can’t bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for 4 days in space
But when you return, it’s the same old place
The poundin’ of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace
And… tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
You don’t believe
We’re on the eve
Of destruction
Mm, no no, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.>

Much as I remember well these songs from my youth (and many others courtesy of Folk Singers like Pete Seeger and Phil Ochs and Joan Baez, et al) its well to remember that we live in a world TODAY that is spinning down around us, and it hasn't been missed by current songwriters.  I'll just put up one set of lyrics, from Coldplay, "When I ruled the World"

<I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

I used to roll the dice
Feel the fear in my enemies' eyes
Listen as the crowd would sing
"Now the old king is dead, long live the king!"
One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castle stands
Upon pillars of salt, and pillars of sand

I hear Jerusalem bells a'ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field
For some reason I can't explain
Once you'd gone it was never,
never an honest word
That was when I ruled the world

It was the wicked and wild wind
Blew down the doors to let me in
Shattered windows and the sound of drums
People couldn't believe what I'd become
Revolutionaries wait
For my head on a silver plate
Just a puppet on a lonely string
Oh...who would ever wanna be king

I hear Jerusalem bells were ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs were singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field
For some reason I can't explain
I know St. Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the world

Whoaaa (x4)

(Whoa...) Here Jerusalem bells were ringing
(Whoa...) Roman Cavalry choirs were singing
(Whoa...) Be my mirror, my sword and shield
(Whoa...) My missionaries in a foreign field
(Whoa...) For some reason I can't explain
(Whoa...) I know St. Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the world>

Coldplay is a British band, and it really was in Britain in the 1600s during the Colonial period that Fiat Money was truly born, courtesy of the Bank of England and Master of the Mint Sir Isaac Newton, beloved by mathematicians as the Inventor of the Calculus (though personally I think Leibniz got there first and certainly his notation was better).

When I Ruled the World really is a parable for the World Domination of Anglo-American Banksterism, for yes indeed they HAVE ruled the world for some 300 years plus now.  And no, St. Peter will NOT be calling the name of the Pigmen from the Squid when the monetary system House of Cards comes a tumbling down here, as it must.  Through liquidity swaps, ALL the Central Banks that collectively create the money we all use throughout the world are engaged in a spiralling process that can only end as Voltaire predicted the fate must be for ALL Paper Money, it returns to its intrinsic Value, which is Zero.

With the death of the monetary system we use, so also will Goobermints around the world sputter and fail, and we are most definitely in for the "Crisis" period experienced before during monetary collapse periods Jim identifies in his Table, but this time an order of magnitude larger because the population is an order of magnitude larger and because the resources we have left now are an order of magnitude smaller.  I sincerely doubt the crisis period we are entering will last a mere score of years, more like Jim Kunstler writes we are entering a "Long Emergency" that probably will be with us for the next century as we ever so unwillingly are forced to let go of the benefits brought to us by the Thermodynamic energy of Oil and the inventions of the Machine Age.

I write about these problems all the time, and hope to contribute here on The Burning Platform a perspective that can help people prepare for the Big Show, which is coming to a Theatre Near You.  Coming sooner than most people would like to believe, and a future that will test our very survival on the planet as a species.  It doesn't HAVE to end in Extinction, but unless people wake up soon to what is coming down the pipe here, that is how it probably will play out.  Hopefully, we all can contribute to ringing the ALARM loud enough and get off the Oil Jones in such a way that the Detox doesn't kill us all.  It won't be pretty no matter what though.

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Brilliant article, Jim, but.....

Your belief in Peak Oil is of almost similar religious intensity to the fervour of the Global Warmeners.   Peak Oil is a furphy, created by those who want the sheeple to believe that oil is rare and expensive to extract, and indeed is getting more rare.

History has proven (supply and demand) that technology will triumph over supply issues.  Just think of coal-to-oil SASOL plants, which in the US and Australia will ensure hundreds of years supply of oil.

Just as long as the Greenies are appropriately constrained.

Thanks for the wonderful memories of one of the greatest songs of last century - I have got 2 years on you from 1961 - I agree with your analysis, but I have never understood the reference to the "pink carnation".  Prom night, maybe??

Anyway, thanks for the wonderful memories, but Jeez, shouldn't you be talking to your health care professionals about appropriate medication?

Only joking.  Good and scary stuff.

 

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A bit dramatic:

"This old man will join his three sons at the barricades when the time comes. The fools and fanatics who run this country are certain. I am not certain of the final outcome, but I know which side I’ll choose. Do you?"

There will be no barricades... the wealth is gone and the American Dream ship has sailed. No one will want to take your "stuff" or live in your house (chances are its not yours anyway).  Like most Americans, you refuse to take responsibility for the financial mess and try to blame others for the choices you made. All that is left is a sense of entitlement and the self destructive urge to take the rest of the world with you.

You "sell" your vote to whoever promises you that you won't have to pay taxes and ignore the borrowing in your children's name. You acquiesced in turning the economy into a war making, wealth destroying machine. Not only did the military buildup help bring down the Soviet Union, it has brought down America as well. But the band plays on.

 

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do you know if you can you buy American pie on itunes?

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A great post! All too true and a forewarning to those oblivious to our peril. Bravo!

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Liked the article very much. I was quit a bit older than eight when American Pie came out.

 

One criticism however, I don’t think you were entirely fair when describing the Clinton ‘surplus’ and the Bush subsequent ‘deficit’. First I have always thought that tying economics to the person holding the presidency at the time is spurious at best putting truly extraordinary events aside. The economy is a lumbering beast it can’t turn on a dime no matter what the president of the time might do or not do.

 

Clintons’ ‘surplus’ was only a surplus if you agree that Social Security surpluses should be used to create it. The Bush ‘deficit’ might, just might have something to do with that little 911 dustup. I have seen estimates that the entire affair has a price tag of nearly 2 trillion dollars over several years after the event. I was out of work in the IT industry for a solid 6 months so this is not difficult at all for me to believe.

 

Regardless of all the above we are using a flawed monetary system, fiat money. This has been in place in its purist form for about 38 years. It will not work, it has never worked and it will not work this time. Regardless of who is president, hairy thunder Republican or cosmic muffin Democrat the end will be the same as it has always been. So comparing one president to another based on what occurred economically during his terms is really a useless waste of time.

 

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Although I agree that there are three huge problems facing the United States - out-of-hand public and private debt ; climate change ; oil addiction and terrorism - I doubt that we're going through anything like a Millennial Crisis.

What you haven't taken into consideration is that strong and long-lasting economic growth can relativize a high debt burden. In 1950 for instance, gross national debt accounted for roughly 94% of GDP. Between 1950 and 1980, the total amount of national debt tripled, but in 1980, national debt only accounted for 33.3% of GDP.

Inflation and economic growth can bring debt back to a managable level. And with the the green energy revolution ahead, it is likely that the U.S. economy can grow again at rates which increase prosperity and ensure stability.

for more info, check out this blog post:
"things look pretty bad, don’t they? yet there’s reason to be optimistic" at
http://www.whatmattersweblog.com/2009/10/22/things-look-pretty-bad-dont-they-yet-theres-reason-to-be-optimistic/

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Strauss and Howe are bullshit according to Zeppelin 

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Another brilliant article, Jim.

While we're headed to the barricades, consider that Don McClean's devil, Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones, were not beyond biting social comment.  Here's what the Stones had to say in the final stanzas of their song "Shattered" about New York City in 1977 (Keith Richards supposedly wrote some of the lyrics in the back of a New York taxi, probably while he was shooting up with heroin).

Don't you know the crime rate is going up, up, up, up, up
To live in this town you must be tough, tough, tough, tough, tough!
You got rats on the west side
Bed bugs uptown
What a mess, this town's in tatters, I've been shattered
My brain's been battered, splattered all over Manhattan

Uh-huh, this town's full of money grabbers
Go ahead, bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots, uh huh
Shadoobie, my brain's been battered
My friends they come around they
Flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter, flatter
Pile it up, pile it high on the platter

 

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 Cross posted from Mish's column at globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com on being overqualified:

Jojo wrote : "There are simply too many people for the available jobs" 


Jim Quinn writes of the "Fourth Turning" that will take place over the next 15 years. He lists several unresolved issues, #1 of which is government debt, that will have to be resolved before a prosperous society is achieved. 
 
I view this "too many people for the jobs" as a much bigger problem than government debt. If everyone was working to their potential, the taxes could get paid and deficits could hold steady. 20% U-6 unemployment levels suck. 

 

 


 

 

 

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Wow, thanks

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Great article. I actually saw Don McLean about 7 years ago in Woodstock, IL at the opera house. (same one from movie Groundhog Day).

He put on a good show.

My only disagreement is that I do think there are a lot more people out there that are clued in to the country's situation then you think. In my circle of friends maybe 70 % see a millenial crisis on the verge of breakout the rest think we will recover like every other time.

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Jim, excellant writing. I feel the pessimism all around me. People are becoming aware that something is very wrong and many are not yet ready to talk about it because I sense they are freightened to consider the implications.

I was born in 1947 so I lived the history of this cycle you are talking about. Your words ring so true.

It is so important to prepare for the coming crises emotionally - and have a good support group established. This is my plan. I have many mechanical skills and am associating myself with the same type of people. The organized thinkers, planners, and doers will survive this. Unfortunately the many brain dead (and there are many) will not survive. Many of the rich will not survive it either.

I believe we will come through this as a stronger people and country - as we have before. The American Spirit is not dead, it is just smothered right now by so many brain dead people.  

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Mr. Quinn:  I can't tell you how personally meaningful to me I find many of your articles.  Thank you for American Pie.  I often tell my three sons that I will help them man the barricades but that I am too old to lead the charge.  I have no doubt that we are on the verge of a major reckoning.  Natural economic forces can only be resisted and postponed temporarily.  The moment of truth is coming, of that I have no doubt.     

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Excellent essay. Thank You.

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 Jim, you should write novels!  Excellent reading but considering that even the simplest of things is the results of infinite number of events preceding, attempting to predict the future is a practical impossibility.  There is no doubt that we are in a wild period of time, but beyond that, ??   

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Great stuff Jim-- I believe there are millions of us who feel the same way.. We are getting a bit long in the teeth physically, and need to mentor/ inform/ awaken the younger generations to carry the fight into the upcoming generations.. This will be a long struggle IMHO, playing out over 10-20 yrs.. Keep the faith and the fight...Best! og

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Speaking of music here, anyone like Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody? Well I stumbled on this parody, reworded to suit the times, so to speak! :>)

Off topic, but oh so appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5EFEQ9aY6o&feature=player_embedded#

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Jim, this is my 4th read of the article, and it still kicks ass.  It just gets better with repetition, like a good ale.

I rarely read an article or book twice, but I expect I will come back here to read this again several more times if the software doesn't bury it.  Don McLean wrote another song that moved my generation deeply, and me in particular.  In my idealistic gonna-save-the-world hippie days, I made a special trip to Notre Dame D'Auvers to sing this (and the rest of the song) with my best friend and fellow world-explorer at Van Gogh's grave:

Starry, starry night.
Paint your palette blue and grey,
Look out on a summer's day,
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul.
Shadows on the hills,
Sketch the trees and the daffodils,
Catch the breeze and the winter chills,
In colors on the snowy linen land.

Now I understand what you tried to say to me,
How you suffered for your sanity,
How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they did not know how.
Perhaps they'll listen now.

 

Hah! and I win, my comment is #100.  What do I win?  Can I be more like Irak?

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Speaking of patterns in human history, the book of Judges, the 7th book in the Bible, illustrates that pattern and identifies the cause.  That cause is outlined in the second chapter, reprinted here.  However, each repeated cycle had a the refrain: 'the people did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and, everyone did was was right in his own eyes.'  

Now the angel of the LORD went up from Gilgal to Bochim. And he said, "I brought you up from Egypt and brought you into the land that I swore to give to your fathers. I said, 'I will never break my covenant with you, and you shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; you shall break down their altars.' But you have not obeyed my voice. What is this you have done? So now I say, I will not drive them out before you, but they shall become thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare to you." As soon as the angel of the LORD spoke these words to all the people of Israel, the people lifted up their voices and wept. And they called the name of that place Bochim. And they sacrificed there to the LORD. When Joshua dismissed the people, the people of Israel went each to his inheritance to take possession of the land.  And the people served the LORD all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders who outlived Joshua, who had seen all the great work that the LORD had done for Israel. And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the LORD, died at the age of 110 years. And they buried him within the boundaries of his inheritance in Timnath-heres, in the hill country of Ephraim, north of the mountain of Gaash. And all that generation also were gathered to their fathers. And there arose another generation after them who did not know the LORD or the work that he had done for Israel.  And the people of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the LORD and served the Baals. And they abandoned the LORD, the God of their fathers, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt. They went after other gods, from among the gods of the peoples who were around them, and bowed down to them. And they provoked the LORD to anger. 13They abandoned the LORD and served the Baals and the Ashtaroth.  So the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he gave them over to plunderers, who plundered them. And he sold them into the hand of their surrounding enemies, so that they could no longer withstand their enemies. Whenever they marched out, the hand of the LORD was against them for harm, as the LORD had warned, and as the LORD had sworn to them. And they were in terrible distress. Then the LORD raised up judges, who saved them out of the hand of those who plundered them. Yet they did not listen to their judges, for they whored after other gods and bowed down to them. They soon turned aside from the way in which their fathers had walked, who had obeyed the commandments of the LORD, and they did not do so. Whenever the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge, and he saved them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge. For the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who afflicted and oppressed them. But whenever the judge died, they turned back and were more corrupt than their fathers, going after other gods, serving them and bowing down to them. They did not drop any of their practices or their stubborn ways. So the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he said, "Because this people has transgressed my covenant that I commanded their fathers and have not obeyed my voice, I will no longer drive out before them any of the nations that Joshua left when he died, in order to test Israel by them, whether they will take care to walk in the way of the LORD as their fathers did, or not." So the LORD left those nations, not driving them out quickly, and he did not give them into the hand of Joshua.

Out of the recurring cycles of disobedience, foreign oppression, cries of distress, and deliverance emerges another important theme—the covenant faithfulness of the God of the Bible. His amazing patience and long-suffering are no better demonstrated than during this period in history.

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Re the barricades...I was thinking the same ...that 40 years ago i didnt quite get it and my involvement protesting against vietnam as a young teenager was more lip service to follow what everyone else was doing, but NOW, having watched and concluded all that you write about I am finally ready to make that stand shoulder to shoulder .

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You are a treasure.

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Odd comment from Bush Sr about 9/11‏

George Bush's biggest accomplishment according to his demon father was the way he handled 9/11.

Then he SMILES when he refers to "this 9/11."

Let's see:

1. Endless war in Iraq and Afghanistan

2. Trillions of dollars wasted - with big portions of it going to Bush cronies

3. A complete gutting of the Bill of Rights

And there is still no credible information on what happened that day: Building 7 collapsing, US air defense shut down by Cheney's order, no plane debris at the Pentagon, and on and on it goes.

"He passed the test."
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/723.html

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What is a "Three Percenter"?

During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.



Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders' Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.



The Three Percent today are gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will no longer back up at the passage of the next gun control act. Three Percenters say quite explicitly that we will not obey any futher circumscription of our traditional liberties and will defend ourselves if attacked. We intend to maintain our God-given natural rights to liberty and property, and that means most especially the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders' Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic.



We are the people that the collectivists who now control the government should leave alone if they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption. We are the Three Percent. Attempt to further oppress us at your peril. To put it bluntly, leave us the hell alone. Or, if you feel froggy, go ahead AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

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Somehow Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd fits in here somewhere. 

More than 1% care. I agree that many people are busy living their everyday lives but that has occurred throughout history. Many who do care recognize that the power lies in the hands of a very small number of people and feel abslolutely powerless to affect change.

 

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You have a lot of people in agreement with you that there is a distasteful liaison between big banking and big government. One would have to be truly deluded or blind not to recognize that the federal government is operating in the best interest of the (international) banking establishment rather than in the best interest of the people and the Constitution of the United States. This is one of several grievances that we are withstanding. We all know that there is much more extensive corruption in our national government.

So now, finally, can we please all recognize that we have long been living with elected legislatures and an executive (one in a string of them) wholly removed from performing their mandated tasks. They are mandated to do one thing, uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. I am aware that we now interpret the Constitution as a "living, breathing document," and have been coerced otherwise into changing the Constitution without amending it. But that commonly used analogy doesn't fly any more, not now that the Constitution is more dead than alive. It's not a living, breathing document, it's a document on a respirator and with IV tubes poked into it from every corporate leach you can name.

Seriously, read the Constitution of the United States, and then come back to me and tell me that ANY of this crap that we have been enduring from our federal government is sanctioned in that document or any subsequent amendment. For example, where does our Constitution allow for a national government to bail out private institutions with public monies; issue currency through a surrogate (Fed) based on fiat; enter into foreign wars without congressional declaration of war; subjugate our laws with international agreements not approved by the Senate (e.g. NAFTA) which should be ratified as treaties... Where in the U.S. Constitution is it suggested that the Congress can abdicate its responsibility (to a private institution called the "Federal" Reserve) to issue a sovereign currency, as opposed to retaining the power "to coin money, [and] regulate the value thereof..."? Come on, the best founding document in the history of any nation that I know of has been torched, shredded, fouled and desecrated. (But you can see the original copy in the National Archives!!!)

I believe that most Americans have a finite capacity to tolerate all this. I'm disgusted with what I see coming out of Washington, and have been for years. We should all pledge to make 2010 the real year of change in America. EVERY incumbent U.S. Representative and Senator who voted to pass NAFTA, TARP, any of the last many budgets, etc. (you get the picture) should be voted out of office with abject disgust and in true protest for this mega mess that we find ourselves in. I don't care if they're Republican, Democrat or independent. OUT! Vote for people with morals and a true commitment to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

By the way, I'm not a "right winger," "tea-bagger," "Obamanite," "Bushie," "Birther," "San Francisco liberal," or any other fabricated distracting definition of a human being, I'm an American citizen with a belief that government can be a lot better than what we have now. Let's go back to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, add a sprinkle more human rights, a little more clarity on what is real money, and make a distinction between what a corporation is versus what a human is, and we'll pretty much have it right... America is dead, long live America!